Schools In : This Guy Used To Bust Union Drives - Do The Tactics Sound Familiar?

Does any of this sound familiar? Talking one on one with employees? Threats? Captive Meetings? Breaking the law? Lying?

THANKFULLY, the employees are being elightened by IBEW Local 363 prior to those meetings and they sitting there listening to the "advisor" or "persuader" knowing what is coming. - It doesn't get any better than that.

In our case here, Dan and Negotiator Ken, Tony and soon to be whoever else they can HIRE cannot escape the major problem of fooling people who know they are being played. Common sense is a REAL RALLY KILLER for them.

In fact, EVERY CAPTIVE MEETING THEY HOLD just empowers the people and encourages them to stand together and become even stronger in their desire to get that contract.

The question remains - WHO ARE THEY PAYING BEHIND THE SCENES? and how much money does that add to the total amount we can afford to waste? Imagine thousands of dollars to fight YOU GUYS! They can use that money FOR YOU INSTEAD OF TO HURT YOU or hold you back!

That is an IMPORTANT PART in this stage of organizing your union here - to keep you all one step ahead and answer any questions anyone might have. This way when they "advise" you, you already have been educated about the coercive tactics they will use to get you to VOTE AGAINST YOURSELF.

YESSSSS! EXPOSURE! And lots of it! - that is what we will have to initiate in response to ANY company advisors coming on the scene - just like the former union buster said - THEY HATE IT. We have done it in the past and the advisors suddenly QUIT!

That is where we see WHAT THEY ALL MAKE and who paid them for what.

We will be sending requests in to the US Department of Labor asking for information on everyone involved in being a paid anti-union persuader for the company. This should prove to be interesting when we total up the money.

The people should know EXACTLY how many thousands of dollars are being wasted by the company fighting them.

This can only help make our case in bargaining. If we had 100,000 dollars or possibly double that to use here, we must have that same amount available when there are no more meetings to hold. Only makes sense , doesn't it?

Maybe the people can get some of that money we didn't mind spending for NOTHING.

Thought you all might like to see how the union busters who do it for a living - either upfront or behind the scenes - do their nasty disgusting work against the people.

Bottom line is this - YOU HOLD ALL OF THE POWER IN THIS ELECTION. If the majority want the union - AND STICK TO THAT CONVICTION - YOU WILL HAVE YOR UNION HERE.

There is no stopping that one important fact - the people have all of the power.

Solidarity wins this election!

VOTE UNION VOTE IBEW LOCAL 363 TO HAVE YOUR SAY IN YOUR FUTURE!

Don't believe Everything The Company Tells You About Having A Contract

Look! This happens all of the time! It is happening to YOU GUYS right now in every CAPTIVE meeting Dan holds.

Many times we are told things from corporations that are not true or we are encouraged to do things THAT ARE NOT IN OUR BEST INTEREST.

They ALL do that to protect or grow that bottom line. Nothing else is as important to them. Not even YOUR WELL BEING. That is a fact.

The sad thing is that at the time we are being told something is good for us - it seems like it is SUCH good advice.

Then later we find out that specific "corporate encouragement and advice" could have killed us.

AS GOOD HEARTED PEOPLE, WE ALWAYS THINK EVERYTHING IS OK AND THAT THE "big shots" HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS IN MIND. THEN WE ARE SHOCKED WHEN WE FIND OUT IT WAS THE WORST ADVICE WE COULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN.

IN FACT, IT TURNS OUT MANY TIMES THAT THIS "ADVICE" IS DETRIMENTAL NOT ONLY TO US BUT EVEN TO OUR FAMILIES.

In this video, they are promoting smoking in a childrens cartoon. Of course, it was good for "big shots" but THAT ADVICE really wasn't good for us.

In your plant, they are promoting working with no union, no rights, no say and no contract. Of course, that is good for the "big shots" but THAT ADVICE really isn't good for us.

It's time to NOT believe any more of the lies. The ones they are telling and the advice they are giving you are like giving kids a pack of those Winstons to smoke whille they watch Fred and Barney.

I have exposed plenty of their lies already and I am sure you are all on the same page with me on that. Enough is enough.

STAY SOLID, STAY STRONG, LISTEN AND BE POLITE, AND JUST VOTE YES FOR IBEW LOCAL 363.

Here's A New Can For Ya Dan - The $25,000 Dollar Can

Thank you to all of the great people who work at the Newburgh Can Plant. You are truly an amazing story of American Workers standing together for the betterment yourself and of all who work there. Thank you for contacting Local 363 and asking us to organize you. It has really been a pleasure to become friends with you all and to help you get together to protect yourselves and achieve your goal of getting a written contract.

I am getting many phone calls, emails and blog posts complaining about how stupid and boring Dans meetings and his "tapes" are. Those are CAPTIVE MEETINGS. You are REQUIRED and MANDATED to attend Dans meetings by Dan. Don't get confused - it is the IBEW meetings that are optional. I am sorry that you have to waste an hour and a half almost everyday but look at the bright side - breaks can be longer when this is all over! We have production time to kill talking!

We think that is A VERY LOUSY management plan.

An hour and a half X 164 people = 246 man hours of production lost for each meeting we attend. With the average of between $22 and $30 dollars and using $25 dollars an hour as a middle wage - that's WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!

It costs ABINBEV- $6150 for each meeting they hold EVERY WEEK. That is OVER $25,000 dollars a MONTH they are spending to stop this! HAVING THE UNION MUST BE WORTH MORE THAN THAT THEN, HUH?

The shame is that $25,000 Dollars could be going toward your HEALTH COSTS or YOUR 401K. Instead, they are spending $25,000 to work against you. To keep you WEAK,POWERLESS AND VOICELESS.

And at the same time they POINT to the union and have the nerve to question if the union spends money on the people.

I CAN PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE UNION WILL - NEVER - SPEND MONEY AGAINST YOU!

THE COMPANY CANNOT SAY THAT WITHOUT LYING ONCE AGAIN.

DAN, KEN , TONY, DAVE ALREADY BLEW THAT ONE. They can't guarantee they WON'T spend money AGAINST you BECAUSE they are right in the middle of DOING IT. And they will be spending more than $25,000 a month when the big lawyers and negotiators get here.

It is not neccessary! We are ALL REASONABLE ADULTS ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE. Just be reasonable with us and we can settle this. The people want the union and the union wants the people. The union protects the people and the people protect the union. All because the union is US, all of us together!

I will publicize what the company spends AGAINST it's employees and we can compare it to what they could have given YOU instead.

You DON'T stand a chance Dan. Neither do you Tony. Pack up your tents and call me in.

So Tony, Dan, Dave, WARREN THE DANCER and YES, YOU TOO - Ken - here is to your new $25,000 a month can.

It's OUR money you are wasting and we want it back.

STAY SOLID, STAY STRONG, LISTEN AND BE POLITE, STAY QUIET OR TELL THEM WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR AND JUST VOTE FOR IBEW LOCAL 363 ON AUGUST 27 AND AUGUST 28

VOTE YES IBEW LOCAL 363

Interview With Company Negotiator Ken By Crystal Ball

You guys have told me that the company is planning on bringing the "negotiators" in to speak with you next week.............. I am asking you all not to antagonize or bother these people either - it's not worth it.

Let's look into the future and study what will be said at their meetings and some questions they cannot answer:

NEGOTIATOR: Hello my name is NEGOTIATOR KEN. I want to speak to you about the upcoming election, negotiating, what happens in negotiations and what risks you are taking.

WORKERS: Hi! NEGOTIATOR KEN, we are all sitting at the big round table and listening good. We want to hear why we need to allow ourselves to be treated like children with no rights here in the Newburgh Can plant.

NEGOTIATOR KEN: OK Great. You guys seem to all be on board so far with the concept, so let's start right up. Do you guys know that IF YOU VOTE THE UNION IN and we begin to negotiate we will start at zero, nothing, no money? Do you know that we could start negotiating at minimum wages and no benefits?

WORKERS: Who would do such an awful thing to us Negotiator Ken? You were brought here to speak to us for our benefit, weren't you? Ohhhh, so you must mean that it would be the UNION that says they want our pay to go down?.....and THAT is WHY we shouldn't vote the union in?

NEGOTIATOR KEN: No, it would be the company, or really me - Negotiator Ken - who would propose that your pay should go down because you want the union here.

WORKERS: Oh, but why would YOU or the company want to hurt us and our families like that? I thought that you all cared about our families and well being? Isn't that why we are spending so much time in these captive meetings all month? Because the company is concerned about US?

NEGOTIATOR KEN: Well, we will have to do that to fight against the union.

WORKERS: But we thought Dan told us that we were free to make our choice and he encouraged us to excercise our rights and to weigh out the facts. But he said in the end we have the right to make that choice.

NEGOTIATOR KEN: Well, Dan must have mis-spoke a little. He does that some times when he talks to you guys. He meant as long as you made the choice that was best for the company and the best choice for us is that you have no voice and no rights at work. We don't want the union to butt in OUR decision making either.

WORKERS: But all 164 of US are the union. How can you have these meetings for us, give us almost parental-like advice,warn of terrible things that could happen and THEN not tell us that it is YOU who will do those terrible things to us? All we want is our wages and benefits written down - we just want what is fair to us. We are mostly longtime employees. It makes us wonder about the company intentions and true feelings for US when we know that as a union shop we will still value the company but question whether they will do the same for us. We are all the same people we have always been! That would be a bad attitude to have and a bad business decision to make. It does not make sense.

NEGOTIATOR KEN: Yes it does! It makes perfect sense. You see the union is supposed to protect the interests of the workers. We cannot have our 164 workers have any protections that would give them a right that would interfere with one of our management decisions - no matter how bad of a decision it may be for the workers. You see? We are protecting you from the union.

WORKERS: But Negotiator Ken, you DO realize that you are talking right here to THE VERY PEOPLE who will make up the UNION NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE and also the people that they will represent? You know that we ALL are the union, don't you? You know we chose to call them in here, don't you? Did they tell you that 72% of the employees signed cards authorizing IBEW Local 363 to represent us and even more have contacted the union to join in? Do you realize right now we know you are threatening and trying to scare us out of organizing and thus not being able to negotiate at the table? We realize that is what you are doing.......and it is not working.

NEGOTIATOR KEN: Threats? Uh, no we are not threatening. Do you know that negotiations could take up to a year or longer and we could still have no contract?

WORKERS: But we also know - and so do you NEGOTIATOR KEN - that most of the negotiations will be to get what we are doing now on paper. That will not be that hard or time consuming NEGOTIATOR KEN, in fact, fair negotiations couldn't possibly take a year. Maybe a a month but that's it. Unless you plan on purposely stalling the negotiations or not bargaining in good faith - then you could drag it along but it would be so obvious to all of us. Plus then the people would start to get antsy on that production floor - and that's no good for the company profits is it NEGOTIATOR KEN? Besides you know that negotiating IN BAD FAITH would be a Federal Law violation and an Unfair Labor Practice so we have to disagree with your timeline.

NEGOTIATOR KEN: Do you guys realize you have to pay the union to negotiate for you?

WORKERS: No, IBEW Local 363 pays for the entire cost of negotiating no matter how long it takes! We don't pay anything until we vote yes on the contract! Isn't that great? By the way, what do YOU get paid to do this, NEGOTIATOR KEN?

NEGOTIATOR KEN: I will not disclose that.

WORKERS: Are you here NOW for our benefit and because you are concerned about our families and our lives?

NEGOTIATOR KEN: Oh yes, I care very much about you all, That is why I am here today.

WORKERS: So then we can TRUST YOU and be confident that you would not propose anything bad for us at the negotiating table because you care about us?

NEGOTIATOR KEN: No, no, you have it all mixed up. When I get to the NEGOTIATING table I will be AGAINST you and your families benefit. I know it is confusing but I really do care TODAY. I am here for your benefit and you should all LISTEN CAREFULLY to my logic. BELIEVE MY WORDS - I am your friend.

Reality check..........

Negotiator Ken, Dan, Tony and every other bought and paid for entertainer that they march out are going to tell you ANYTHING to get you to not vote for yourselves and your own future. They are just saving their own asses - that is what each one is doing - except Britto - he owns the place. He's waiting on the sidelines to fire one of them when the IBEW gets in here and I can't wait to see it.

Whoever gets it will deserve it for trying to threaten and scare the people because WE ARE COMING IN. IBEW Local 363 is THE PEOPLES CHOICE AND IT CANNOT BE STOPPED.

The fact is that everything the people have is in jeopardy right now and it will continue to be in jeopardy every day - UNTIL WE HAVE A CONTRACT AND IBEW LOCAL 363 IN NEWBURGH. Just look at you recent history of LOSING THINGS - there is your future without that contract.

The biggest risk for the Newburgh Can Plant workers is to be WITHOUT A UNION........... not to have IBEW Local 363 represent them.

We are VOTING IN OUR UNION! Let's keep what's good and improve the rest! Let's get a contract......and no Kenny, it ain't takin a year either.

STAY SOLID, STAY STRONG, LISTEN AND BE POLITE AND JUST VOTE FOR IBEW LOCAL 363.

Open Comments To Tony Bhalla Time - We Won't Be Fooled Again

Please use this post as a place for everyone to speak directly to Tony Bhalla. All of you need to let your friend Tony know how you feel and why you want IBEW Local 363 and why YOU WANT HIM TO SUPPORT YOUR DECISION.

I will comment on Tonys letter to you about the union and how he wants you to vote NO. Tony you should be ashamed. You know that the people are in a better position bargaining as a group. You are being selfish about this. Deep down you know what a powerful and FAIR partnership a contract brings with it.

Someone explain to Tony that there is no "third" party and that the union is all of you. If anything the attorneys they bring in or their consultants are the third and fourth parties here.

The union is the people and we are the union.

Tony says he is "very concerned" that the union will be driving a wedge between you and Dan. AFTER IBEW LOCAL 363 IS VOTED IN we will build a strong bridge between ourselves - the workers - and Dan. A two - way bridge Tony.

Tony you have union plants in other parts of the country - why do you fight your friends in Newburgh who just want a say at the table and what they have written down?

Tony call Se'Lux or Zumtobel two world wide companies who employ over 100 IBEW Local 363 employees EACH and ask them what the relationship is with the union. It is great Tony.

Call LSI Industries, another plant that has over 100 IBEW Local 363 employees working for it and ask what the relationship is with the union. It is great Tony. LSI is on the same property as you - the AIRPORT PROPERTY.

Tony we can't depend on you or even Dan to take care of us. What if you get a golden parachute or you leave? What will happen to us in the future? WE NEED A CONTRACT NOW TONY.

You stated that the company is strong, our plant is strong and our future is promising in terms of job security. We work hard for this company and we are proud and happy that it the case. Why does any of that have to change because we pick IBEW Local 363 to represent us? WE don't see where it should Tony.

Why does it have to be so different Tony? We just want a voice, some say and a written contract. We are not planning on asking for the impossible Tony. You know us better than that. Why do you fight us and accept the other UNION plants in the ABINBEV "family"??

Work with us Tony - you too Dan - when it is all over we need to all meet and talk. Our negotiating committee (made up of us -the workers and our union) will all meet and all get on the SAME PAGE.

Remember Tony YOU WILL NEED TO STILL BE OUR FRIEND WHEN WE CHOOSE IBEW LOCAL 363. If you can't do that - than you never were a REAL FRIEND TONY. We think better of you Tony. WE WANT TO BELIEVE THAT YOU WILL RESPECT THE PEOPLES WISHES AND WORK WITH US ALL WHEN WE JOIN OUR NEW UNION - IBEW LOCAL 363.

We have the best intentions to work together for everyones benefit in the end - do you Tony?

Your actions from here forward will answer those questions Tony.

We won't be fooled again.

You guys have the floor........

Roundtable Meetings: Fool On The Hill

It is really quite simple. We need a written contract. Anything else is just foolish to listen to. No matter who speaks to us from high up on the hill.

Here's to Dan, the August Roundtables, THE CONSULTANTS, THE NEGOTIATORS AND WHOEVER ELSE CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE ONLY IMPORTANT ISSUE IS A CONTRACT........

THE WORDS JUST FIT SO NICELY TO EVERY MEETING THEY HAVE AND WORD THEY SAY.

STAY SOLID, STAY STRONG, LISTEN AND BE POLITE, AND JUST VOTE FOR IBEW LOCAL 363

Happy August! "I'm Stickin With The Union"

Happy August everybody! This is going to be the best month of your lives! This is going to be the month that YOU DECIDED to become IBEW Local 363 members and get yourself a contract.

Ya' know - without a contract you have NO RIGHTS. Every decision and every change that effects you in that plant is put in place WITHOUT YOUR INPUT.

WE ARE ADULTS. WE WANT INPUT, REAL INPUT IN THE DECISIONS MADE IN THIS PLANT FROM NOW ON!

Well, the good news is that it is NOW AUGUST! And AUGUST is a new beginning.

Strangely enough - August is the month that the company will turn up the engines to FULL SPEED to "talk you out of it". They will tell you that you don't need the union. They will tell you how bad it will be, how it will hurt you.

THEY ARE NOT BEING TRUTHFUL TO YOU ABOUT THE UNION. They are NOT holding these meetings with your best interest in mind - THEY ARE TRYING TO CONFUSE YOU.

In fact, they are PETRIFIED THAT THE 164 HOURLY EMPLOYEES OF THE PLANT ARE FINALLY GOING TO HAVE A VOICE AND SOME RIGHTS IN THAT PLANT.

Ever since we were kids we have heard these famous old sayings. Kids today still hear them from their own Mothers - STAY WITH YOUR FRIENDS - THERE IS SAFETY IN NUMBERS.

The company is using FEAR to get you to move away from sticking together and bargaining as a unified workforce in the Newburgh Plant. And it's not working, is it? In fact - IT IS BACKFIRING ON THEM.

DAN, TONY AND BRITTO WANT TO SCARE YOU INTO VOTING AGAINST YOUR SELF AND YOUR FELLOW WORKERS. THEY ARE USING FEAR TO SCARE YOU INTO MAKING A BAD DECISION AND TO KEEP YOU WEAK AND POWERLESS TO HELP YOURSELVES.

That is what the roundtable meetings are all about - Fear.

Momma was right then and she is still right today.

Stay with your friends and vote YES on August 27 and 28.

OHHHHHHH, You - can't - scare me - I'm Stickin' with the union!

STAY STRONG, STAY SOLID, LISTEN AND BE POLITE, TELL THEM WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR AND VOTE YES FOR IBEW LOCAL 363.

This is OUR MONTH!