Friday, August 20, 2010

No I Won't Back Down - Gonna Stand My Ground



You guys are the REAL DEAL. You are very smart and intelligent people and we will work well together. People talk about the union. The union this and the union that. But really the union is the people in it.

Your unit of ABINBEV WORKERS of IBEW Local 363 is YOUR PART of
IBEW Local 363.
That is the really great part. Your contract is YOUR contract and you guys are "the union" in the purest sense of the word. Yes, your IBEW representatives will do the negotiating and grievances and bargaining etc, but the YOUR PART OF THE UNION is YOURS.

YOU GUYS WILL DECIDE WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU AND THAT WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. YOU GUYS STEER YOUR OWN SHIP IN THE DIRECTION THAT IS BEST FOR EVERYBODY!

That is what this is all about - a strong collective voice.

IBEW Local 363 PROVIDES THE AVENUE FOR THAT COLLECTIVE VOICE TO FINALLY BE HEARD.

FACT IS, YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY STRONGER THAN YOU WERE NON-UNION.


YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THE SMART THING..

We don't want the world just a little fairplay.


DON'T LET ANYBODY try to convince you that bargaining together is worse than not bargaining at all. YOU KNOW that makes no sense.


NO I WON'T BACK DOWN - GONNA STAND MY GROUND

STAY STRONG, STAY SOLID, LISTEN AND BE POLITE, TELL THEM WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR AND JUST VOTE FOR IBEW LOCAL 363 ON AUGUST 27/28 AND GAIN A VOICE AT THE TABLE FOR EVERYBODY!

24 comments:

  1. STAY STRONG...WE WILL DO THIS!!! IT IS ABOUT US AND NOTHING ELSE. DO NOT LISTEN TO THE RHETORIC...BELIEVE IN YOURSELF...THIS IS ABOUT US AND OUR FUTURE...VOTE YES!!!!!!!

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  2. The meetings were a TOTAL farce!!! Suddenly, Tony wants to hear what we have to say? We have been SCREAMING about the inefficiency of the front office for a long time...but, no one listens...I'm voting for the union. Care to join me?

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  3. ALL THE OTHER PLANTS ARE WATCHING US...IT'S ABOUT TIME..VOTE YES..HAVE REPRESENTATION!!!!!!!!!!!

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  4. Union gal by choiceAugust 20, 2010 at 8:52 PM

    OVER 46,000 HITS....THE WORLD IS WATCHING!!!!!!!!!

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  5. This is about HAVING A CONTRACT....a legal, enforceable written document that spells out everything...You know, EXACTLY what UPPER MANAGEMENT HAS.....only we DON't!!!!!!

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  6. VH1: Behind the MusicAugust 20, 2010 at 8:59 PM

    You've heard all the cliche's, Now it's more bullshit than a dairy farm can handle and you are still on the fence? Been referred to as the "Children" by the man I guess thinks himself as the incarnation of Rhama. Yeah, ramma lamma, ding dong! So much for reincarnation. If the kharma thing is true, perhaps an insect of some kind, a pest no doubt. We can deal with the issues fairly. No threats. Do you realize how much you have alienated your work force? Unionization aside. You have pissed off virtually every employee at this plant and probably a lot more who are standing in the wings, (Windsor, Mira Loma) watching. Watching us, watching you,.... calculating the odds. The bookies in London have you losing, I put up several quid. Against you.
    I'll be voting for the union 363 next week, don't waste your breath in a roundtable/captive meeting/attempt to save hearts and minds, during your last shot next week. Actually you'd probably do yourselves a favor by making silent. Why piss off the ones you haven't gotten to yet? UNIONISTAS!!! Play the game as it has always been played. You know the rules.
    And for you scientists: Tony f'd up Newton's first law.
    For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.-Sir (a title of repect) Isaac Newton
    We won't even address Tony's Law of relativity. Do you really need an imPASSIONED plea to vote yes? I don't think so.
    "The Kids Are Alright"

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  7. What have we gained since the InBev takeover? NOTHING...It's all been taken away little by little. Are you better off today than you were last year? Fight For Your Rights!!!!!!

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  8. Thanks for the complement, intelligent. In-tell-i-gent. Thank you for noticing! We have been played for dumb for a long time. "Morons Creating Cans". Gullible, maybe, we listened and swallowed the shit for many years. Because it didn't hurt, we didn't feel betrayed. Well, now we've been insulted, at wage and benefit time, and now by "the Tony". Children, eh? How many have you raised? Obviously you didn't participate or watch them grow. Your "children" at MCC have followed your teachings, and doctrine and have become the best of the best, or so you tell us. Then We are told we are to accept the mediocrity of the 50th percentile, whatever the f that means. Accept mediocrity in the paycheck? At least until the other competitors catch up? What kind of tripe is that? We aren't dumb, and yes, we are your children! we have matured and come full circle to follow your lead. It's come back to bite you on the ass. Welcome to parenthood! Your children have grown up!

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  9. Here we go "boys and girls"......lol

    Please discuss these issues:

    1) Why I am still on the fence.

    2) Why should I NOT be on the fence?

    3) Why do I need a contract?

    4) Why should I vote YES?

    5) Are we children or adults?

    I think it is worth trying to convince the VERY FEW LEFT are on that "fence" to jump off and join the rest of you on the side FOR the people and AGAINST no one.

    Please realize there are some people who you can never convince - there is fear in some mens hearts -- and just recognize that and leave them alone to be.

    The rest of us will carry the load for them.

    "He ain't heavy, he's my brother."

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  10. (just so it wasn't missed - reprint)

    When it is all said and done I will be the first to reach out to heal.

    If I am rejected ( again ) I will adjust, it's that simple.

    but just to be clear IBEW Local 363 and Sam like to get along first....we are GREAT PARTNERS but awful enemies.

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  11. What does the Green Gaint & spout do all day besides follow each other around.
    They hang out in the break room.
    remember we are a product of our work place.


    DO AS I SAY NOT WHAT I DO.(children)

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  12. Wow, Can Plant Mama you go! Suffragette city! What are you doing after the can wars? Never mind maybe I don't want to know. As long as you are on the same side. Yesssssssssssssssssssssss! Sounds like steam escaping!
    This is for the people who should be with us who were unjustly ground up and spit out by THE MACHINE. We are about to exact some justice for you too. It doesn't change your situation but may give you some satisfaction that they are about to taste the same bitter pill they inflicted on you. REJECTION! When we vote we are remembering all of you who have been screwed out of your job for the dumbest of reasons. We know we can't do anything after the fact for you but we can damn sure know we can prevent them from doing it to others.

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  13. Former Newburgh CannerAugust 20, 2010 at 11:03 PM

    I am not going to say who I am but I have been through this before and I worked at the plant.
    You guys are on the edge of something huge. Don't let this opportunity slip away from you. I have been watching from the sidelines but it's time to cheer you guys on! Do it! Go Union! That is the only way you will get your foot in the inbev door. Stick together this time for your futures. At least you have one to preserve. Don't let some rich ass scmuck like Tont or even dan tell you whats best for you . Right there you know they are lying. want proof? When the HELL did they ever give more than two minutes of their time worrying that you might make a wrong personal decision? They are fighting this for their own skins! Choose a future, choose to vote YES for yourselves, and do it for all of us who aren't there and can't shove a YES vote in that box! Go 363!

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  14. Now, now...lets not start down this path again people! We were doing well not bashing everyone team members and managers alike. Stay focused. Don't throw stones. We will all have to work together regardless.

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  15. It is getting heavy now. We want what is fair. We are the best can plant around. You know it Danny Boy...

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  16. food for thought,
    When the company showed us the income of union plants was 26.5% lower than non union plants, why didnt they show total hrs worked? My question is does non union plants work more overtime than union plants. That would explain the million dollar question that tony dave and dan could not answer. If you are someone who is worried about how much money you could lose ask Dan to show you the information per plant on what the overtime totals are for union versus nonunion. That should help.

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  17. PhyscologistonstaffAugust 21, 2010 at 7:39 AM

    Warren,
    Where have you been hiding you little snake? You always seem to slither out of the lime light. You stirred alot of shit up then you hide. Are you throwing Dan under the bus like you did Russ( may he rest in peace). We know how you bad mouthed Russ to Tony. We noticed your not in Any meetings. Why? Sure push Dan out there by himself. You have been directing him since he got here and now you fade away.
    Dan notice how Warren is being quiet at certain times? Notice how Tony knows more than you told him? Dan, if you dont believe it, ask Warren and look into his eyes when your talking to him. His ears will turn red and he will smirk or slightly smile and then slightly tilt his head when he lies. He will try to hide it now that I told you, he will stammer a little too, watch. Dont worry all you guys are trustworthy right? You all tell the truth to eachother dont you? Right now Warren is starting to clench his hand and swear. I can bet on it. His right one. Dont worry Warren, Dan is going to be a non issue with you. Tony has to keep him calm until after the vote. Dan still has to appear to be in control, but the puppets strings are starting to fray. Everyone can see it because he knows the IBEW has won.He looks tired. Very very tired. Warren we see you. Everytime you speak to us we know what you are. Try to keep calm when you make out to the floor. Its going to be harder and harder each time you walk out that door.

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  18. and I won't back down

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  19. I Call Them As I See ThemAugust 21, 2010 at 2:40 PM

    Hey Jax Steelworker! You wouldn't be talking about out former D Crew FE Team leader, Kevin Bell would you? He was known in these parts as "Kernel Cobb". I think you can figure out why.
    Hey iamaunionman, Tony just told you he gave the union plants the raises and nothing to us so they can catch up. Even though he says MCC has never gone 2 years without some kind of raise don't count on it. Never say never. No union means they can push us around and we have no recourse, no rights, remember this is NY state, not a "right to work" state. Organizing into a union changes that equation, levels the playing field a little more. We have to stop them from bleeding us dry. Remember to vote yes next week.

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  20. I cant wait for the 27th and 28th.I am careful for what I ask for Tony.I asked the company for a raise, an increase in my pension,job security and a commitment on paper. Thats what we are asking for. You have it why cant we? did you make more this year? How can you sit there and tell us in one breath a unuion is bad and then in the next breath say you dont care if a union comes in , that your used to unions and it wouldnt bother you.? You should record yourself and watch before you open your mouth. Im glad to hear your used to dealing with unions and that this year your going to raise up the union plants pay.Thats what YOU said.So that means we are going to get a raise right? Oh thank you wise daddy. Thank you! See boys he do cares about us. we to dumb for our own good.

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  21. saw warren back in tagging the other day helping the GTs funny thing about that you dont see hide nor hair of the guy for months now all of a sudden he wants to tag pallets and be involved LOL. what a coincidence the same day tony was there you didnt fool anybody we all know what a phoney you are besides other things we havent seen you dancing lately have we ? well except for on you tube

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  22. Tony,

    You said you gave the union plants a raise but not us so they can catch up to us. I do not think that it fair at all. We all work hard in Newburgh and should be treated equal. Not something for one plant and not the other. That is Bullshit....I just jumped off the fence...

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  23. a little drunk on safety beerAugust 22, 2010 at 12:30 AM

    maybe a lttle drunk, but not dumb! tired of being ignored by the management, maybe the union will open there eyes and see we are people just like them and deserve to be treated that way!!! hey tony I'm not your kid, and you need to see thatthis Dan guy has treated us even worse than that. Bout time i started feeling less like a 5 year old and more like a family man and a a coworker. Just because your management. even middle management to all you pompas teamleaders, you know who you are, does not mean i am less than you, its just what i choose to do. Its not even the finacial treatment that has me pro union, but the managers who claim to be on my side to my face and then stick it in my , thats enough tonight

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  24. They all are coming out of the wood works now that the union scare is on, one of them even stopped and asked me how my wife and kids were doing, must of been looking at my toolbox, Not sure the people manager could even think of a name for my wife, well dave, its kathy and she dont like you. and the best part is you get to pay me to say this tonight!

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